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Is my opinion valid, or just ignorant of history?
Published on August 6, 2005 By joeKnowledge In Current Events
There was a discussion on the forums about how the Confederate Flag should harbor no racial or ethnic bad ties.

It would also seem that some of those who would proudly wave the Confederate Flag also have researched history to say that there is no reason to look at the flag and think it is as bad or in a similar paying field as the Nazi flag

'I know a black person who has the flag on his car'

'The north was just as bad'

'There were many positives of culture behind the Confederate Flag'

I would love to hear these arguments again as to why some people are stupid or just don't know history well enough to feel that the Confederate Flag can be looked upon as a sign of racism and bigotry.

I do not disclaim that the Confederate Flag does not have the horror of the Swastika of the current and past century, but to ignore the fact that many who killed, shot, kept separate, pushed down and tried with all its might to keep a culture of segregation used that very flag as a symbol of what they were about is a wash out of the very history you claim discredits the flag as a sign of racism.

I am rehashing the subject after reading and watching the history of voting. You see the tapes, the clips, the posters, the words and many of them are attached to the Confederate Flag.

From people holding the flag while marching against integration to burning down homes, the flag some here claim has no relationship whatsoever to racism seems to have been used a whole lot.

To those who feel the North was just as bad, my response to that is... it was. Nevertheless, it wasn't as blatant, nor was it so hard for a person of color to live there and was why so many moved there. Plus, it wasn't under a flag... people didn't show up to protests waving a separate flag to represent their point of view... their culture... their way of life.

It is my conclusion that some here just can't get the fact that there can be people who do not like the flag and have real reasons for it. To those who just find it unacceptable for a sane person knowledgeable in history to look at the flag as a symbol of racism within culture, I think are in of a need of a reality check.

You have your reasons for liking it; calling people ignorant for having real reasons to call the very flag you love a symbol of centuries of segregation, death, and racism, rape, broken homes and dreams forced upon only a select people only because of the color of their skin only shows just how ignorant of reality you are about your very own flag.

I said it before, and I'll say it again; it is one thing to have the flag on a car or in some room of yours, but waving outside of your house would make me conclude (until at least talking to you) at first glance that I should be wary of you.

Is my opinion valid, or just ignorant of history?

on Aug 06, 2005
If I had to choose, I'd have to say ignorant of history. I think it is very ignorant of history to symbolize hate to the point that you hate the symbol. I can't stand it when the French do it with the swaztika, and I think it is equally as stupid with the Confederate flag.

The hammer and sickle reperesent a nation that purged tens of millions of people. The Chinese flag represents a nation that systematically exterminated even more, some think up to 60 million. We tolerate these, and shun the Nazi flag, when Hitler killed a fraction as many, and revile the Confederate flag, which represents no systematic extermination at all.

Feel free to make the point that the Chinese flag is a symbol of racism and genocide, and demand it be taken down everywhere it hangs here in the US. That kind of broad judgement of the people it represents is no less ignorant than the broad judgement you make of the pre-civil war South, and those who fly the flag today.

on Aug 14, 2005

Pretty good points.
Thanks Bakerstreet

I'll respond shortly.